Ep 85 – Ambivalence and Motivational Interviewing

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Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast

Glenn Hinds & Sebastian Kaplan

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Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing podcast, hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.

Glenn Hinds is a registered counsellor living in Derry, N. Ireland. He worked as a drug therapist and senior social work practitioner in mental health and alcohol and drug services, from 1990 until 2008, when he created Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants (https://www.glennhinds.com) developing and delivering bespoke training workshops to health, social care, education, criminal justice and human resource practitioners and managers across the UK, Ireland and USA. He has been a member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2003 and has completed Motivational Interviewing Training Integrity (MITI) and Motivational Interviewing Supervisory Training (MIST) training and has written the Motivational Interviewing module for Ulster University Foundation Degree.

Sebastian G. Kaplan, PhD, is an associate professor in the Departments of Psychiatry (Child and Adolescent Section) and Family and Community Medicine at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, NC, USA. Sebastian is a former special education teacher, who currently provides individual and family psychotherapy, primarily with adolescents and young adults, struggling with a variety of life challenges. Sebastian has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2008. He provides training and consultation in MI for a variety of regional and national audiences. Sebastian is a co-author of “Motivational Interviewing in Schools: Conversations to Improve Behavior and Learning.” (Guilford Press 2016). Sebastian is also a co-developer of “Motivational Interviewing with Adolescents: A Four-Video Series” (http://www.psychotherapy.net/video/mi-adolescents).

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Ep 85 – Ambivalence and Motivational Interviewing

Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast

1 hour 30 minutes 15 seconds

9 months ago

Ep 85 – Ambivalence and Motivational Interviewing

Glenn and Sebastian were happy to welcome back Dr. Allan Zuckoff to the podcast to discuss ambivalence. Allan is a clinical psychologist who has dedicated the past 30 years to motivational interviewing (MI) research, training, implementation, and practice. As a clinician, teacher, and clinical researcher in the departments of psychology and psychiatry at the University of Pittsburgh for more than two decades, he oversaw intervention development, training, and fidelity monitoring for a dozen clinical trials testing novel applications of MI in substance use, mental health, and health behavior setting; he has presented widely at international meetings and published more than 40 articles and chapters on this work. More recently, he has been responsible for clinical innovation in design and execution of MI-based telehealth advance care planning and patient navigation programs.

Allan has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 1998. He served for nine years on MINT’s Board of Directors, including three as Chair, and was Editor of the MINT Bulletin and MINT’s online journal, Motivational Interviewing: Training, Research, Implementation, Practice (MITRIP). He has trained professionals from a variety of disciplines on three continents and served as a MINT trainer of trainers. He is the author of the self-guided MI book Finding Your Way to Change: How the Power of Motivational Interviewing Can Reveal What You Want and Help You Get There, published by Guilford Press and available in English, Dutch, Italian, and Spanish.

Episode index:
0:00 – Episode intro
10:10 – Allan’s introduction and early MI story
15:00 – The core of MI stays the same
23:10 – What is ambivalence?
27:10 – Ambivalence as a conflict within ourselves
31:15 – The role of values in separating the two sides of ambivalence
34:55 – Importance and confidence scaling
41:15 – Resonance as a metaphor
47:15 – Discord and the capacity to tolerate ambivalence
59:45 – The benefits of ambivalence
1:12:00 – Hidden ambivalence and the use of the Values Card Sort
1:20:00 – “There’s a good reason for everything that people do”
1:26:10 – “Foxes and hedgehogs”
1:30:15 – End of episode

Links and resources:
– Allan’s email – allan@allanzuckoff.com
– Allan’s website – www.allanzuckoff.com
– Allan’s blog – https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/allan-zuckoff-phd
– Allan’s book – Finding Your Way to Change: How the Power of Motivational Interviewing Can Reveal What You Want and Help You Get There. Guilford Press, 2015.

For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian

Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

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