Financial talk radio veteran, Don McDonald and former host of Serious Money on PBS, Tom Cock, join forces to talk about real money issues. In each episode, they solve real money problems, dole out real investing (not speculating) advice, and really explain the financial issues that effect all of us. Plus, it's actually fun! Talking Real Money is a podcast designed to provide the real help we all need to enjoy a really great future. Call in with your questions anytime at 855-935-TALK (8255).
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Financial talk radio veteran, Don McDonald and former host of Serious Money on PBS, Tom Cock, join forces to talk about real money issues. In each episode, they solve real money problems, dole out real investing (not speculating) advice, and really explain the financial issues that effect all of us. Plus, it's actually fun! Talking Real Money is a podcast designed to provide the real help we all need to enjoy a really great future. Call in with your questions anytime at 855-935-TALK (8255).
Don and Tom question a surprising Wall Street Journal column arguing that annuities should become the default option in 401(k) plans. They explore why the idea is gaining traction, where the logic breaks down, and how the insurance industry benefits when complexity outpaces understanding. Along the way, they dig into the real shortcomings of annuities—fees, opacity, inflation risk, liquidity traps—and why “guarantees” often mask the true cost. Listener questions follow, covering tax-efficient stock cleanup at Schwab, spouse disagreements over individual stock picking, automatic ETF withdrawals at Vanguard, and building Dimensional portfolios inside Aspire plans.
0:04 Don’s rant: “What the world needs now is… more annuities?”
1:20 WSJ’s argument: make annuities the 401(k) default
2:05 Why income complexity doesn’t justify default annuities
3:01 Do annuities actually solve longevity risk?
3:29 Inflation, joint-life costs, and who really wins
4:20 Insurance industry reputation and the unanswered criticisms
5:15 High fees, opacity, and why mistrust is earned
5:59 Are annuity sales tactics the real barrier?
7:02 Should annuities be in 401(k)s at all? Don vs. Tom
7:36 Why annuities are mostly sold, not bought
9:10 Liquidity traps and major-life-event risks
10:01 Why “plans” matter more than “products”
10:57 Listener questions: why nobody calls anymore
11:14 Q1: Selling a brokerage full of individual stocks at Schwab
12:46 Q1b: How to convince a spouse who loves stock picking
14:21 Indexing vs. anecdotal evidence
16:21 SPIVA data and why active managers lose
17:02 Q2: Can Vanguard automate ETF withdrawals?
19:05 Fractional shares and why purchases are allowed
20:25 Q3: Aspire 403(b) options and DFA overload
23:46 How many DFA funds do you really need?
24:44 Micro-cap risks and portfolio sprawl
25:42 Tom’s pumpkin-patch grandkid cameo
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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk
Financial talk radio veteran, Don McDonald and former host of Serious Money on PBS, Tom Cock, join forces to talk about real money issues. In each episode, they solve real money problems, dole out real investing (not speculating) advice, and really explain the financial issues that effect all of us. Plus, it's actually fun! Talking Real Money is a podcast designed to provide the real help we all need to enjoy a really great future. Call in with your questions anytime at 855-935-TALK (8255).
