In this episode of Talking Cloud, I interview Kirsten Bay, CEO and co-founder of Cysurance, discussing her journey from supply chain operations to the world of cybersecurity and insurance. We explore the evolution of data valuation, the complexities of cyber insurance, and the importance of understanding risk management in today's digital landscape. Kirsten shares insights on how businesses can better navigate cybersecurity challenges and the innovative approaches being taken in the insurance sector to address these issues. In this conversation, Kirsten and Grant delve into the complexities of cyber insurance, discussing the evolving landscape of risk management in the face of increasing cyber threats. We explore the integration of security products with insurance solutions, the impact of AI on cybersecurity risks, and the importance of managing severity in cyber incidents. Our discussion highlights the need for organizations to adapt to new technologies while maintaining robust security measures, and the future implications of data security and privacy.