Fifth episode of Talking & Improvising. This episode features conversations in words and music between bass player Jesper Nordberg and the Danish trombone player Maria Bertel. The podcast was recorded in June 2024, with financial support from the Swedish Arts Council. Maria Bertel is a Danish trombone player, improviser and composer. The amplified acoustic sound of her instrument creates an output that draws inspiration from drone and noise music. What is normally not hearable is presenting itself, movements, metal, and breath become a swirling part of her compositions. Changing organic patterns are emerging, tiny sounds become brutally clear as well as the range of overtones of the instrument.Jesper Nordberg is a young Swedish double bass player. He has studied at the famed Rhythmic Music Conservatory in Copenhagen. He has worked with a number of prominent European and American improvising musicians, such as Okay Temiz, Brandon Lopez, Jesper Zeuthen, and Kasper Tranberg. With a grand tone and characteristic feel for rhythmical changes and displacements, he has established himself as an individual voice at the jazz scenes of Copenhagen and Malmö. He takesa big interest in folk music from the Balkans, and has collaborated with musicians from Croatia, Serbia, Macedonia, Turkey, and Romania.