Shaun D'sa is the creative director of Whoa Mama design studio in Chennai. He is also an artist who possesses an undying love towards bikes and creating terrariums. In this episode, Shaun and I talked about how he found his calling in design, his initial days as a graphic designer, how he co-founded Whoa Mama, and what "momentum of the restless' means to him. We also talked about how it's better for someone who's starting out as a designer to work in a creative agency than to freelance, what are some things that Whoa Mama looks at in someone's portfolio before they hire them and how to design an effective brand identity. In the Make The Logo Bigger section of this episode, Shaun talked about how clients need to listen more with intention — as the designer is educating them of the choices he made and the impact of those choices. Stay till the end to find out why Shaun takes his fitness very seriously and how it helps him be more creative and hey! if you'd like to check out some of his work, definitely look him up on Instagram @shaundsa and also check out Whoa Mama's page @whoamamadesign /disclaimer: this episode was recorded over a phone call unlike the other episodes because of some technical difficulties so please cut me some slack yeah? love y'all/