What is your body saying when you’re not speaking, and how could it be holding you back? In this episode, world-renowned body language expert Mark Bowden explains how nonverbal signals impact trust, credibility, and executive presence. Discover how our brains instinctively scan for safety cues, and why understanding body language is critical for anyone who leads, presents, or communicates under pressure.
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“What instantly comes to your mind when you see me cross my arms?”
Andrea Wojnicki – Talk About Talk:
I’ve been told that’s a sign of defensiveness, but I’m not sure that’s true.
Mark Bowden:
Yeah? Well, good. You know, I’d start by checking who told you that.
AW:
I think it’s just common knowledge, right?
MB:
Common knowledge. Yeah, stupid. You know, I actually stopped trying to count all the reasons why people cross their arms after I hit 30. It just got boring. There are many, many reasons.
Meet Mark Bowden
AW: Mark Bowden is a world-renowned body language expert, and he’s been on my radar for a while. When we finally connected for this interview, we discovered that we live and work near each other. What a coincidence! We both share a passion for helping others communicate more effectively.
But I have to say: Mark blew my mind.
This conversation took twists and turns I didn’t see coming. So buckle up. You’re about to learn a ton about body language, perception, credibility, and so much more.
Welcome to the Talk About Talk Podcast!
In this episode, you’ll hear my conversation with body language expert, keynote speaker, and bestselling author Mark Bowden. You’ll learn the one key thing you need to focus on to instantly improve your body language, and your communication overall. You’ll also gain insight into how our motivations, including our primal survival instincts, shape our perceptions of others, especially when it comes to interpreting body language. And finally, we’ll bust a few body language myths that you’ve probably accepted as truth…until now.
If you’re a returning listener, welcome back. I’m so glad you’re here. And if you’re new to Talk About Talk, welcome! Please subscribe to the podcast on your platform of choice (Apple, Spotify, or YouTube), where you can actually see me and Mark in action. Subscribing ensures you never miss an episode and that you receive ongoing communication coaching from me every two weeks.
We cover topics like:

Overcoming imposter syndrome
Giving powerful presentations
Establishing executive presence
Building your personal brand
And yes, body language.

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A Quick Roadmap
First, I’ll introduce Mark, then we’ll dive into our interview.