In the most recent episode of “Talk a Little, Learn a Lot,” the American Society of Naval Engineers (ASNE) podcast, Captain Jerry Rovner, USN-Ret, discusses with host Stephen Phillips the International Submarine Races (ISR). These are human-powered submarine races hosted each year at NSWC Carderock. Jerry has been the race director since 1991. With Steve, he describes the history of the race, how the race is conducted, interesting designs, and most importantly, how it is an opportunity for STEM students to connect with otherson their educational and professional paths. There is a special guest moment at the end of the podcast with Astronaut Megan McArthur, an ISR alum.