In this episode of the Tailboard Misfits podcast, hosts John Velez and Brad Conrado delve into the nuances of leadership within the fire service. They discuss the concept of leading up the chain of command, emphasizing the importance of honor, respect, and understanding motives. The conversation highlights the significance of creating a supportive environment for new firefighters, the necessity of honest conversations, and the proactive approach of bringing solutions rather than problems to leadership. The episode aims to provide actionable insights for improving leadership capabilities in the fire service.