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T&A Podcast - Episode Summary
This is Part 2 of an interview with Chris, a professional advantage player. The episode dives deep into advanced card counting systems, casino experiences, and practical advice for aspiring advantage players.
Chris discusses his transition from the Hi-Lo counting system to the more advanced CAC2 (a level-two count system), explaining the substantial advantages it provides. The conversation covers practical casino experiences, including dealing with trolls online, handling casino cage disputes, tipping strategies, and the realities of professional blackjack play.
- Hi-Lo vs. CAC2 Comparison: Chris explains why he switched from the popular Hi-Lo system to CAC2, a level-two counting system
- Performance Metrics: CAC2 shows approximately 2-2.5% average advantage compared to Hi-Lo's 0.75-1%
- Win Rate Differences: On a 6-deck game ($25-$2000 spread), CAC2 produces $611/hour vs Hi-Lo's $177/hour
- Double Deck Advantages: On double deck games, CAC2 shows 3.13% EV with $1,640/hour vs Hi-Lo's 3.3% EV with $700/hour
- System Details: CAC2 is available on qfit.com for approximately $100
- Prediction: Chris believes CAC2 could eventually replace Hi-Lo as the gold standard
- Dealing with inexperienced players asking for free simulation advice
- The importance of investing in proper tools (CVCX, Blackjack Apprenticeship software)
- Cage Dispute Story: Chris shares a detailed account of refusing to provide ID for a $1,500 cashout (below the $10,000 legal threshold)
- Importance of knowing your legal rights vs. casino policies
- Back Counting: Chris's partner can allegedly back count up to 4 tables simultaneously
- Betting Ramps: Different optimal ramps for Hi-Lo vs. CAC2
- Session Management: Importance of staying calm but firm in disputes
- Strategy of betting tips alongside your bet (only costs the EV, not the full amount)
- Using tips strategically for cover or dealer goodwill
- Dealers often taught basic strategy for games different from what they deal
- Differences between tribal and commercial casinos
- Chris's partner is described as "one of the best players still playing in the world"
- Expertise in multiple advantage play techniques beyond counting
- Importance of partnering with skilled players
- "If you can master that count, I think it's actually a great count. And I could foresee in the reasonable future CAC2 actually replacing Hi-Lo as the gold standard of counting."
RESOURCES MENTIONED
- CVCX (Casino Vérité Blackjack) - Professional simulation software
- BJA PBS (Blackjack Apprenticeship Pro Betting Software) - Recently upgraded
- CAC2 Counting System - Available at qfit.com for ~$100
- Norm Wattenberger - Creator of CVCX and owner of qfit.com
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