A very special episode here, featuring none other than Dutch artist and director of the infamous KIRAC film series Stefan Ruitenbeek and his benefactor, the Dutch art collector Philip Van Den Hurk. We attempt to understand just why Philip would allow himself to become a character in the KIRAC universe, which Philip explains brings him a kind of limit experience. Stefan explains the erotic dynamics in their relationship. Episode ends with Philip trying to strawman Adam with the abortion issue.
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