For the final, bonus episode of ECFR’s Swamp Chronicles, Aslı Aydıntaşbaş and Jeremy Shapiro talk to Mark Leonard, director of ECFR and host of the “World in 30 Minutes” podcast, about the results of yesterday’s US election.

Together they discuss who turned out for Donald Trump and why; what Trump did right and what Kamala Harris did wrong; and how Trump’s choice of personnel for his second administration might impact future policumaking. Aydıntaşbaş and Shapiro share their thoughts on the change in economic and international relations under Trump, the concentration of power in the executive – and the looming potential of a dictatorship. How should European leaders should respond to the challenging political landscape in the US? And what mistakes should they avoid in this time of change?

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