In this episode, we talk with Naomi Miller, lighting designer, and Senior Lighting Research Scientist at the United States Department of Energy - Pacific Northwest National Laboratory. Naomi's work focuses on bridging the gap between technology and application. She works with clients and stakeholders to overcome the hurdles facing the adoption of energy-efficient lighting products, raising awareness of the importance of lighting quality and the impacts of light on humans. We discuss with Naomi how lighting standards and certifications can be drivers for good lighting design, the importance of interdisciplinary collaborations between academia, practice, and the lighting industry, as well as her latest research on flicker and circadian lighting. Naomi recently served as a member of the Illuminating Engineering Society's Board of Directors and is both a Fellow of the IES and the International Association of Lighting Designers (IALD). This podcast is part of a research-in-practice project on sustainable lighting design by Maha Shalaby & Isabel Villar.