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Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
Jon Krohn
916 episodes
3 days ago
The latest machine learning, A.I., and data career topics from across both academia and industry are brought to you by host Dr. Jon Krohn on the Super Data Science Podcast. As the quantity of data on our planet doubles every couple of years and with this trend set to continue for decades to come, there's an unprecedented opportunity for you to make a meaningful impact in your lifetime. In conversation with the biggest names in the data science industry, Jon cuts through hype to fuel that professional impact. Whether you're curious about getting started in a data career or you're a deep technical expert, whether you'd like to understand what A.I. is or you'd like to integrate more data-driven processes into your business, we have inspiring guests and lighthearted conversation for you to enjoy. We cover tools, techniques, and implementation tricks across data collection, databases, analytics, predictive modeling, visualization, software engineering, real-world applications, commercialization, and entrepreneurship − everything you need to crush it with data science.
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The latest machine learning, A.I., and data career topics from across both academia and industry are brought to you by host Dr. Jon Krohn on the Super Data Science Podcast. As the quantity of data on our planet doubles every couple of years and with this trend set to continue for decades to come, there's an unprecedented opportunity for you to make a meaningful impact in your lifetime. In conversation with the biggest names in the data science industry, Jon cuts through hype to fuel that professional impact. Whether you're curious about getting started in a data career or you're a deep technical expert, whether you'd like to understand what A.I. is or you'd like to integrate more data-driven processes into your business, we have inspiring guests and lighthearted conversation for you to enjoy. We cover tools, techniques, and implementation tricks across data collection, databases, analytics, predictive modeling, visualization, software engineering, real-world applications, commercialization, and entrepreneurship − everything you need to crush it with data science.
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Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
913: LLM Pre-Training and Post-Training 101, with Julien Launay
Julien Launay launched Adaptive to give data science teams in business enterprises their “RLOps tooling” to make reinforcement learning easier. Talking to Jon Krohn, Julien says, “Most of our users are data scientists who write Python codes to interface with the system”. Adaptive is also able to work with companies without data science teams, collaborating with partners like Deloitte to add the necessary personnel. Julien is currently working on making his platform more widely available. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/913⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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1 day ago
1 hour 15 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
912: In Case You Missed It in July 2025
In this episode of In Case You Missed It, we look back on five great interview episodes from July. Hear from Lilith Bat-Leah (Episode 901), Sinan Ozdemir (Episode 903), Sebastian Gehrmann (Episode 905), Zohar Bronfman (Episode 907) and Robert Ness (Episode 909). They’ll tell you why data-centric machine learning is so important across disciplines, starting with law, and how we can use AI benchmarks and “red teaming” to refine our search for the best AI models.  Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/912 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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5 days ago
32 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
911: The Future of Python Notebooks is Here, with Marimo’s Dr. Akshay Agrawal
Reproducibility, Python notebooks, and data science communities: Software developer Akshay Agrawal speaks to Jon Krohn about Marimo, the next-generation computational notebook for Python, how he built and fostered a thriving community around the product, and what makes this notebook so versatile and accessible for users.  Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/911⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you by ⁠Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS ⁠and by the ⁠Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA⁠. Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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1 week ago
58 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
910: AI is Disrupting Journalism: The Good, The Bad and The Opportunity
In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn looks into AI’s disruption of the journalism industry and how it has fundamentally reshaped news production. Multiple news outlets’ suing of ChatGPT over its use of copyrighted materials may have taken the most headlines to date, but this isn’t to say news media is rebuffing AI entirely. On the contrary, several outlets have launched summarization and analysis tools for both internal and external use, such as The New York Times’s Echo and The Washington Post’s Haystacker. This episode looks into the ways major news outlets are utilising AI, and what this means for journalists. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/910⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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1 week ago
10 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
909: Causal AI, with Dr. Robert Usazuwa Ness
Researcher at Microsoft Robert Usazuwa Ness talks to Jon Krohn about how to achieve causality in AI with correlation-based learning, the right libraries, and handling statistical inference. When dealing with causal AI, Robert notes how important it is to keep aware of variables in the data that may mislead us and force inaccurate assumptions. Not all variables will be useful. It is essential, then, that any assumptions are grounded in a deeper understanding of how the data were gathered, and not what appears in the dataset. Listen to the episode to hear how you can apply causal AI to your projects. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/907⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you by Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS and by the Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA. Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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2 weeks ago
1 hour 22 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
908: AI Agents Blackmail Humans 96% of the Time (Agentic Misalignment)
The moral and ethical implications of letting AI take the wheel in business, as revealed by Anthropic: Jon Krohn looks into Anthropic’s latest research on how to use and deploy LLMs safely, specifically in business environments. The team designed scenarios to test the behavior of AI agents when given a goal and a set of obstacles to reach it. Those obstacles included 1) threats to the AI’s continued operation, and 2) conflict between the AI’s goals and the goals of the company. Hear Jon break down the results of this research in this Five-Minute Friday. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/908⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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2 weeks ago
8 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
907: Neuroscience, AI and the Limitations of LLMs, with Dr. Zohar Bronfman
“Intelligence has many forms,” says Zohar Bronfman, who speaks with Jon Krohn about the fascinating intersection between computational neuroscience and philosophy, and how it has brought him closer to understanding what is necessary to develop human-like intelligence in machines, as well as his motivations for launching Pecan AI and why predictive models outstrip generative models in business.  Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/907⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you⁠⁠⁠ by, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Adverity, the conversational analytics platform⁠⁠⁠⁠ and by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA⁠⁠⁠⁠. Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (03:47) Why LLMs aren’t bringing us closer to AGI (33:44) About Pecan AI (51:03) Why data modeling is so challenging (1:01:25) How Pecan AI makes its tools widely accessible
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3 weeks ago
1 hour 21 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
906: How Prof. Jason Corso Solved Computer Vision’s Data Problem
Jason Corso speaks to Jon Krohn in this Five-Minute Friday all about Voxel51’s latest tool, Verified Auto-Labelling, and the company’s incredible success in developing popular tools for computer vision. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/906⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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3 weeks ago
29 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
905: Why RAG Makes LLMs Less Safe (And How to Fix It), with Bloomberg’s Dr. Sebastian Gehrmann
RAG LLMs are not safer: Sebastian Gehrmann speaks to Jon Krohn about his latest research into how retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) actually makes LLMs less safe, the three ‘H’s for gauging the effectivity and value of a RAG, and the custom guardrails and procedures we need to use to ensure our RAG is fit-for-purpose and secure. This is a great episode for anyone who wants to know how to work with RAG in the context of LLMs, as you’ll hear how to select the best model for purpose, useful approaches and taxonomies to keep your projects secure, and which models he finds safest when RAG is applied. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/905⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you⁠ by, ⁠⁠⁠Adverity, the conversational analytics platform⁠⁠⁠ and by the ⁠⁠⁠Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA⁠⁠⁠. Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (03:28) Findings from the paper “RAG LLMs are Not Safer: A Safety Analysis of Retrieval-Augmented Generation for Large Language Models” (09:35) What attack surfaces are in the context of AI (38:51) Small versus large models with RAG (46:27) How to select an LLM with safety in mind
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4 weeks ago
57 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
904: A.I. is Disrupting the Entire Advertising Industry
In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn reveals how AI is taking on the glitzy world of advertising. Bold claims from Meta and OpenAI contend that users will soon be able to plug in what they want and have AI churn out an ad campaign for little to no cost are shaking the advertising industry to its core. The fact that the four biggest sellers of ads (Google, Meta, Amazon, and ByteDance) are digital companies and accounted for over half of the global market in 2024 adds salt to the wound. Hear the three ways that AI is disrupting the industry, and who (or what) has the most influence on digital consumers to date. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/904 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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1 month ago
9 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
903: LLM Benchmarks Are Lying to You (And What to Do Instead), with Sinan Ozdemir
Has AI benchmarking reached its limit, and what do we have to fill this gap? Sinan Ozdemir speaks to Jon Krohn about the lack of transparency in training data and the necessity of human-led quality assurance to detect AI hallucinations, when and why to be skeptical of AI benchmarks, and the future of benchmarking agentic and multimodal models. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/903⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you by Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS, by ⁠⁠Adverity, the conversational analytics platform⁠⁠ and by the ⁠⁠Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA⁠⁠. Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (16:48) Sinan’s new podcast, Practically Intelligent (21:54) What to know about the limits of AI benchmarking (53:22) Alternatives to AI benchmarks (1:01:23) The difficulties in getting a model to recognize its mistakes
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1 month ago
1 hour 28 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
902: In Case You Missed It in June 2025
In this episode of “In Case You Missed It”, Jon recaps his June interviews on The SuperDataScience Podcast. Hear from Diane Hare, Avery Smith, Kirill Eremenko, and Shaun Johnson as they talk about the best portfolios for AI practitioners, how to stand out in a saturated candidate market for AI roles, how to tell when an AI startup is going places, and ways to lead AI change in business. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/902 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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1 month ago
29 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
901: Automating Legal Work with Data-Centric ML (feat. Lilith Bat-Leah)
Senior Director of AI Labs for Epiq Lilith Bat-Leah speaks to Jon Krohn about the ways AI have disrupted the legal industry using LLMs and retrieval-augmented generation (RAG), as well as how the data-centric machine learning research movement (DMLR) is systematically improving data quality, and why that is so important.  Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/901⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you by the ⁠⁠Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA⁠⁠ and Adverity, the conversational analytics platform⁠⁠⁠. Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (05:45) Deciphering legal tech terms (TAR, e-discovery) (13:47) How legal firms use data and AI (29:01) All about data-centric machine learning research (DMLR) (46:58) Lilith’s career journey in the AI industry
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1 month ago
1 hour 6 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
900: 95-Year-Old Annie on How to Stay Healthy and Happy
“Stay happy and healthy”: In this special Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn speaks with Annie, his grandmother, on her 95th birthday. Hear how she is physically and mentally coping with illnesses that limit her mobility and the joys of having a pet. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/900⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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1 month ago
15 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
899: Landing $200k+ AI Roles: Real Cases from the SuperDataScience Community, with Kirill Eremenko
Data science skills, a data science bootcamp, and why Python and SQL still reign supreme: In this episode, Kirill Eremenko returns to the podcast to speak to Jon Krohn about SuperDataScience subscriber success stories, where to focus in a field that is evolving incredibly quickly, and why in-person working and networking might give you the edge over other candidates in landing a top AI role. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/899⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you by ⁠Adverity, the conversational analytics platform⁠ and by the ⁠Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA⁠. Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (04:35) Stories from five SuperDataScience subscribers (27:32) How to secure a career in a fast-paced industry (44:19) How to stand out against huge competition in data science (1:01:40) The importance of communication in data science (1:16:41) Where to focus your skills in AI engineering
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1 month ago
1 hour 33 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
898: My Four-Hour Agentic AI Workshop is Live and 100% Free
In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn announces his new, free workshop on Agentic AI. On this four-hour comprehensive course, you’ll learn the key terminology for working with these flexible, multi-agent systems and then get to grips with developing and deploying this artificial “team of experts” for all your AI-driven projects.  Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/898⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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1 month ago
5 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
897: How to Enable Enterprise AI Transformation, with Strategy Consultant Diane Hare
Diane Hare talks to Jon Krohn about the power of storytelling for corporate buy-in of AI initiatives, how to actively implement AI to transform organizations, and how emerging professionals can upskill themselves. Hear how she discovered her background in storytelling at Ernst & Young and her work with Simon Sinek, which she finds to be integral to her process. Inspired by Sinek’s aphorism “start with why”, Diane notes that many companies neglect this crucial part of their mission because they never take the time to work on it. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/897⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you by Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS, by Adverity, the conversational analytics platform and by the Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA. Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (04:51) How Y Carrot works with BizLove (14:19) How BizLove prioritizes change management (29:18) How to upskill effectively (42:37) How BizLove integrated data from two enterprises (48:52) How to enable change in your business
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1 month ago
1 hour 2 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
896: AI (Probably) Isn’t Taking Your Job (At Least Anytime Soon)
The Economist reported that global Google searches for "AI unemployment" hit an all-time high earlier this year. But do we have to worry about AI taking our jobs? In this week’s Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn investigates whether the rise of AI has directly led to an increase in unemployment.  Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/896 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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2 months ago
7 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
895: The Future of Enterprise AI: Investor Shaun Johnson Reveals What Actually Works
How to get funded by a VC specializing in AI: Head of AIX Ventures Shaun Johnson talks to Jon Krohn about investment strategies, how to simplify AI adoption, why a little competition can be so beneficial to AI startups, and how Big Tech is circumventing anti-monopoly measures. Additional materials: ⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/895⁠ This episode is brought to you by the ⁠⁠Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA and by ⁠Adverity, the conversational analytics platform. Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (10:36) What Shaun looks for when evaluating early-stage AI startups (19:11) Building out AI startups (41:44) How AI practitioners can future-proof their careers (45:27) How to measure AI impact (53:30) The key verticals ripe for AI disruption
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2 months ago
1 hour 16 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
894: In Case You Missed It in May 2025
In this episode of “In Case You Missed It”, Jon Krohn takes clips from interviews with guests in May 2025. From AI agent integration and RAG-based chatbots to education through virtual reality headsets and data harmonization, this episode explores how industry leaders are developing the tools and technologies that can improve operations, education, healthcare, and marketing. Highlight clips are with John Roese, Global Chief Technology Officer and Chief AI Officer at Dell Technologies (Episode 887), Senior Developer Relations Engineer at Posit, PBC Jeroen Janssens and Lead Data Scientist at Xomnia Thijs Nieuwdorp (Episode 885), Founder of CEEK Mary Spio (Episode 889), and Martin Brunthaler, Co-founder and Chief Technology Officer at Adverity (Episode 891).  Additional materials: ⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/894⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.
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2 months ago
29 minutes

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
The latest machine learning, A.I., and data career topics from across both academia and industry are brought to you by host Dr. Jon Krohn on the Super Data Science Podcast. As the quantity of data on our planet doubles every couple of years and with this trend set to continue for decades to come, there's an unprecedented opportunity for you to make a meaningful impact in your lifetime. In conversation with the biggest names in the data science industry, Jon cuts through hype to fuel that professional impact. Whether you're curious about getting started in a data career or you're a deep technical expert, whether you'd like to understand what A.I. is or you'd like to integrate more data-driven processes into your business, we have inspiring guests and lighthearted conversation for you to enjoy. We cover tools, techniques, and implementation tricks across data collection, databases, analytics, predictive modeling, visualization, software engineering, real-world applications, commercialization, and entrepreneurship − everything you need to crush it with data science.