In this episode we welcome back friend of the podcast Carlton Turner to discuss the themes of his recent research on psychology, race and trauma in the church. We reflect a little on our work on race and wellbeing in the church of England, and then think about abuses of power, racism and the health of institutions. Thanks for joining me again and I hope you find it interesting!

Trigger warning: we do not discuss individual cases of racial trauma but themes of racal trauma, racism and health disparities are discussed at various points.