In this episode I talk about two big incidents in recent news: the re-election of Trump and the resignation of Archbishop Justin Welby. On the one hand, a toxic masculine man, trusted to rescue the USA, on the other, a safeguarding scandal that has cost him his job. What does this all tell us about leadership? Are we asking too much? Or lost to stereotypes of those we want in power? There are few answers but lots of questions. Thank you for listening!

For the sermon by Rev Dr Otis Moss III see Trinity United Church of Christ: https://www.youtube.com/live/7zHTUe7rSBs?si=y-QYYRzy7aePjHLX from 59:50 onwards

For the book by Justin Lewis-Anthony see https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/you-are-the-messiah-and-i-should-know-9781441122469/