Mel, Michael, and Joel discuss the role of stoicism in the Christian faith. Should Christians aspire to live a life of stable equilibrium as opposed to manic highs and despairing lows? What's the difference between stoicism and self-control? Next they talk about infertility. If children are conceived by the sovereign will of God, does that mean infertility is God's will? How should you counsel couples who are struggling with infertility? How should Christians view artificial methods like IVF or surrogacy? The conversation finishes on the topic of exchanging your soul for worldly gain. Why would anyone do this? What does it feel like to lose your soul?