In this enlightening episode of "Studies in Counseling," we welcome Dr. Jamie Marich, a renowned expert in the fields of trauma, dissociation, and expressive arts therapy. Join us as we delve into the intricate relationship between art, trauma, and spirituality, uncovering transformative insights that challenge and inspire. Dr. Marich shares her profound understanding of dissociation, a common yet often misunderstood response to trauma. She demystifies this experience, advocating for a broader acceptance and normalization in both therapeutic settings and everyday life. We explore themes from her compelling book, "Dissociation Made Simple," providing listeners with an accessible guide to understanding and managing dissociative experiences. A poignant part of our discussion revolves around Dr. Marich's personal journey, as narrated in her memoir, "You Lied to Me About God." Here, she opens up about her own encounters with spiritual abuse and trauma, shedding light on how these experiences can deeply impact one’s spiritual and emotional well-being. A highlight of our conversation is the role of expressive arts in counseling. Dr. Marich, through her book "Process Not Perfection," introduces this innovative approach to therapy. She illustrates how creative expression can be a powerful tool for clients who struggle to articulate their experiences and emotions verbally. Also, we delve into the often-overlooked topic of spiritual abuse. Dr. Marich elucidates how spiritual principles can be misused, leading to harmful power imbalances. In contrast, we also discuss the concept of healthy spirituality, emphasizing its potential to nourish and enrich personal growth. Lastly, Dr. Marich offers a glimpse into the wealth of resources available on her websites, jamie-marich.com and trauma-made-simple.com. These platforms are treasure troves for therapists and clients alike, seeking to explore trauma-informed care and expressive arts therapy. Don't miss this captivating episode, where we bridge the worlds of art, trauma, and spirituality, revealing the incredible healing power of expression with Dr. Jamie Marich.