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Strange Animals Podcast
Katherine Shaw
300 episodes
1 week ago
A podcast about living, extinct, and imaginary animals!
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A podcast about living, extinct, and imaginary animals!
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Natural Sciences
Science,
Life Sciences
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Episode 454: Bats!
Strange Animals Podcast
16 minutes 45 seconds
1 month ago
Episode 454: Bats!
This week we're going to learn about a bunch of bats! Thanks to John, Murilo, and Alexandra for their suggestions!

Further reading:
Why Bats Can’t Walk: The Evolutionary Lock That Keeps Them Flying
On a Wing and a Song—Bats Belt out High-Pitched Tunes to Woo Mates
Why some bats hunt during the day
Puzzling Proto-Bats

A pekapeka just walking around catching bugs on the ground [photo by Rod Morris, from link above]:



BLOOOOOOD! but a really cute smile too:



The western red bat looks ready for Halloween!



Show transcript:
Welcome to Strange Animals Podcast. I’m your host, Kate Shaw.
This week as monster month continues, we’re going to learn about bats! We’ve talked about bats in lots of previous episodes, but we have a lot of really neat information in this one that we’ve never covered before. Thanks to John, Alexandra, and Murilo for their suggestions!
John suggested we learn about diurnal bats and also asked if there are any flightless bats, maybe ones that live on islands. There are lots of island-living bats, and many birds that live on islands evolve to be flightless. It makes sense that bats might do the same thing--but I couldn’t find any information about any known bat that has lost the ability to fly.
The reason seems to be how highly derived bats are. That means they’re specialized, the only mammal known that has ever evolved true flight. Unlike birds, which don’t need to use their legs when flying, bats’ legs are actually part of the wings. The wing membranes, called patagia, stretch not just between the elongated finger bones of the bat’s hands, they also stretch between the arms and legs, and connect the legs too.
A January 2025 study comparing bat skeletons to the skeletons of birds determined that unlike in birds, where the size of the legs doesn’t have anything to do with the size of the wings, in bats the leg size and the wing size are closely related. If a bat evolves smaller wings, its legs also evolve to become smaller. That’s why there are no bats that resemble ostriches, with tiny wings but really long legs.
Another possible reason is that bat legs have evolved to point backwards compared to other animals. It’s not just the feet, the knees are also rotated backwards. That’s why bats hang upside-down when they’re not flying. Many species of bat never land on the ground, because they literally can’t walk at all.
But there are a few species of bats that can walk quite well. One is the increasingly threatened New Zealand lesser short-tailed bat. It lives in a few places in both the North and South Islands, as well as some small islands off the coast, although it used to be much more widespread. It’s also called by its Maori name, the pekapeka.
The pekapeka mainly lives in forested areas and is quite small. It’s brown with a lighter belly, and it has big ears, as do most bats. Its eyes are small and its vision isn’t very good, but it has a good sense of smell. Its wings are small so its legs are correspondingly small too, but its legs are also strong despite their size. It has a clawed thumb toe on its feet and on its wings that helps it climb around in trees when it needs to, and it also spends about half of its time on the ground. It walks just fine, crawling with its wings folded so that the ends point up and back, out of the way. And yes,
Strange Animals Podcast
A podcast about living, extinct, and imaginary animals!