In our latest 'In the SALOON with…', host Jane Messer talks with writer Ren Wyld and actor and playwright Katie Beckett. Together, we delve into Wyld's short story 'Clatter Tongue' which Katie Beckett read at StorySALOON Live on Oct 7, 2025. We explore the two artists' creative processes, challenges and pleasures of writing, what's current in  contemporary First Nations narrative and theatre, and much more. We recommend that you listen to Katie Beckett reading of 'Clatter Tongue' beforehand; it's episode 17 on StorySALOON Podcast. Ren Wyld is South Australian writer of Martu descent. Their story 'Clatter Tongue' won the won the Borderlands 2020 First Nations Writing Award and is published in This All Come Back Now: An Anthology of First Nations Speculative Fiction. Wyld has written and published multiple award-winning works about Indigenous experiences and history, both fiction for and nonfiction for younger readers and adults. Katie Beckett is a celebrated Murri actor, film writer and playwright. She is a winner of the Balnaves Award 2015 for her play Which Way Home which had a sellout season at Belvoir Theatre, and nominee for Green Room Award 2017. She has appeared on stage and in many tv series including Sunshine Super Girl, Milk, Which Way Home, Binary Stars and Best Lives, Lighten Up, Kill the Messenger, Coranderrk, Onwards and Upwards, This Fella, My Memory (Moogahlin Performing Arts), Redfern Now and Black Comedy. Beckett’s film credits include Slam, The Unlisted, Spread the Word, Diary of an Uber Driver, Smart Street, Rake, Harrow and much more. This episode's conversation references a number of books and organisations. We've gathered them here to assist StorySALOON listeners explore further: Katie Beckett, 'Which Way Home' <https://www.ilbijerri.com.au/event/which-way-home/> his All Come Back Now: An Anthology of First Nations Speculative Fiction, ed Mykaela Saunders, UQP 2022 <https://www.uqp.com.au/books/this-all-come-back-now> Southerly journal: <https://southerlylitmag.com.au> Sovereign Texts journal: <https://www.sovereigntextsjournal.com/> David Unaipon: Legendary Tales of the Australian Aborigines by David Unaipon, Kangaroo Press, ed by Stephen Muecke and Adam Shoemaker <https://shorturl.at/xXscc> Miranda Tapsell, ABC tv series, 'Top End Bub' <https://shorturl.at/ZUhat> 'Bran Neu Day' song, by Knuckles, National Film and Sound Archive collection  <https://shorturl.at/uqY3Q> 'Bran Neu Day' film, info at Australian Screen an NFSA website <https://aso.gov.au/titles/features/bran-nue-dae-2009/> Prof Natalie Harkin, Flinders University <https://www.flinders.edu.au/people/natalie.harkin> ILBIJERRI, a leading theatre company creating innovative works by First Peoples artists. <https://www.ilbijerri.com.au/about/> StorySALOON is hosted by Jane Messer. Find out more about ⁠StorySALOON's⁠ live shows and podcasts at ⁠<www.storysaloon.com.au> Subscribe to StorySALOON podcast, and follow us on socials. StorySALOON acknowledges Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders as the first storytellers of this land. We pay our respects to Elders past and present, as we create, perform and listen on unceded Gadigal land.