In this conversation, De Shell Parker shares her journey into social work, driven by her personal experiences and the desire to help others. She reflects on the impact of social workers in her life, memorable cases, and the challenges faced within the system. The discussion delves into systemic issues, the role of capitalism, and the importance of finding joy amidst adversity. Parker emphasizes the need for reform and the complexities of balancing empathy with the demands of the job. Ultimately, she encourages listeners to follow their light and not internalize negativity.