In this episode of Steph on Skills powered by Enginuity, Steph is joined by Andrew Beresford and Joe Wilson, two of the experts involved in developing the 2nd generation of T-Levels qualifications.

Andrew is Technical Adviser, Building Services Engineering for EAL, whilst Joe is Head of Work Based Learning and VTQ Delivery at Educas and together they explain the purpose of T Levels and how they bridge the gap between purely academic and purely vocational education as well as the role they play in covering crucial pathways for the demand in the skills sector for Electrical, Plumbing & Heating, Gas, Air Conditioning & Refrigeration, Protection Systems and, from 2026, Low Carbon Heating.

Andrew and Joe talk about why T Levels are suitable for a wide range of learners as well as offering various exit routes such as university, work, or higher-level apprenticeships and share the importance of employer feedback in the process as the qualifications continue to develop.

The conversation also highlights how T Levels are preparing students for the industry with up-to-date skills and knowledge so that young people are ready for work from day one.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

00:24 Backgrounds of the Guests

01:32 What are T Levels?

02:51 Generation One vs. Generation Two T Levels

03:34 Feedback and Improvements in T Levels

06:21 Who are T Levels For?

12:08 Employer Engagement and Real-World Experience

16:55 Keeping Up with Technological Changes

22:04 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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