Varunika Saraf’s recent solo exhibition at Chemould Prescott Road that features deeply political works are a reference, subversion and perhaps even a hijacking of complex and ever-changing processes that we call tradition. In conversation with Varunika in this episode is writer and Associate Editor at The Art Newspaper Kabir Jhala. Referencing Saraf’s practice through the episode, Jhala enquires about her experiences and influences as the pair speak about the ethics of presenting violence, self-censorship, exclusionary politics, historical archives, surveillance and society slowly moving towards erasure of the past. The pair delve into the role images have continually had in the understanding of politics and violence as well as Saraf’s historical references and investigations of Tradition.