In this powerful episode, hosts Nadia and Avu sit down with Professor Jonathan Jansen—Distinguished Professor of Education at Stellenbosch University and former President of the Academy of Science of South Africa. From his early days as a high school biology teacher to becoming one of the country’s most influential education voices, Jansen shares bold insights on how teachers ignite change in classrooms and communities. With stories of courage, resistance, and hope, this conversation explores how educators lead transformation from the ground up—often against the odds. A must-listen for anyone invested in inclusive, impactful education.