Pack and Brett sit down with Chris McGill, cofounder of Card Ladder, to talk about the connection between data, emotion, and the collector’s mindset.

They break down:

• The $93,000 Tom Brady Certified rookie sale and what it means for collectors
• Why some cards gain cultural significance while others stay hidden
• The market for Mahomes, NT shields, and why player-worn still matters
• The role of social media in shaping how we collect
• Chris’ McCaffrey Finite chase and how collectors balance logic and obsession

This one’s packed with insights from one of the hobby’s sharpest minds. Whether you track the numbers or collect from the heart, this episode will hit home.

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