
In this tenth episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, hosts Shawn Winburn, James Henry, and Mollie June Miller Bachman welcome their very first guest, Bridget Williams, for a thoughtful conversation on the tension between following Jesus’ teachings and worshiping him. Bridget shares her spiritual journey from a Catholic upbringing to her current work with Appalachia Service Project in Kentucky, highlighting her exploration of diverse worship traditions. The group discusses how elevating Jesus too highly can make his example seem unattainable, whereas his life was meant to model a way of living accessible to all. Together they reflect on worship as more than weekly rituals—seeing it as awe, surrender, and alignment with God’s presence in daily life—and explore how spirituality can be lived out in community, service, and ordinary moments. The episode underscores the challenges and opportunities young adults face in reconciling faith, authenticity, and practice, while affirming that worship can take many forms grounded in love, presence, and action.