Have you ever faced a season where God’s plan for your life looked nothing like what you prayed for? Where you wrestled with questions, grief, and longing — wondering if your story still carries purpose in His Kingdom? In this tender, truth-filled episode of Spirit Filled Girl Talk, Sarah Phillipe and Satin Pelfrey sit down with Holley Gerth — bestselling author, life coach, and co-host of More Than Small Talk — to talk candidly about infertility, spiritual motherhood, and finding peace in uncertainty. Holley shares how God met her in deep disappointment, revealing a redemptive picture of Eve as “mother of all living” (Genesis 3). Through that moment, He reframed her understanding of motherhood — showing that nurturing, discipleship, and spiritual fruitfulness go far beyond biology. In this heartfelt conversation, Holley opens up about the grief and frustration of waiting, how she and her husband learned to love one another through different emotional rhythms, and how God surprised them by building a covenant family through adoption and spiritual legacy. Together, we explore how to walk in faith through unanswered prayers, how to surrender to God’s plan without losing hope, and how to find the peace of God that steadies the heart when life feels uncertain. 💬 In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Biblical truth about spiritual motherhood and how your nurturing gifts still matter in the Kingdom of God How to lament honestly with God — and with safe community — while waiting on His timing The difference between expectations and covenant love in family and friendship Gentle, practical rhythms to calm your nervous system and anchor your heart in Jesus Why surrender often opens the door to God's most creative, redemptive work 🕊️ Whether you’re walking through infertility, navigating loss, or simply waiting on God to move, this conversation will help you find comfort, courage, and renewed faith growth in the middle of uncertainty. This isn’t small talk. It’s Spirit Filled Girl Talk.   Order Holley’s book for yourself or a friend who needs peace right now: Prayers for Peace of Mind: Scriptures and Encouragement for Days of Anxiety, Worry, and Stress Share this episode with a woman navigating infertility, waiting, or a change in her motherhood story. Join our list for Monday Heart Check emails + episode updates Subscribe/Follow and leave a review to help more women find faith, community, and holistic health. If you'd like to support Spirit Filled Girl Talk 🙏🕊️💛: Venmo: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.venmo.com/u/spiritfilledgirltalk⁠⁠⁠ Sarah's website: ⁠⁠https://sarahphillipe.com/⁠⁠ Satin's website: ⁠⁠https://satinpelfrey.com/⁠⁠