In this week’s episode of Spirit & Liberation, host Jeanette Charles-Márquez is joined by Caroline Mair-Toby—lawyer and founding director of the Institute for Small Islands. With more than a decade of experience in public international environmental law, Caroline has advised small island states and developing nations in UN climate negotiations, served as a legal consultant to governments and international organizations, and published widely on the environment, human rights, and conservation. In addition to her legal work, Caroline walks with deep spiritual clarity, drawing strength from her African, Asian, and Indigenous lineages. She bridges law and ancestral practice, exploring how each of these traditions offers insight into resistance and healing. For Caroline, the fight for justice is not only political or legal; it is profoundly spiritual. In this episode, Caroline reflects on: How small island states and Indigenous communities are shaping global climate justice, The role of spirituality and ancestral wisdom in legal and political struggles, And, how her own lineage guides her work at the intersection of law, sovereignty, and liberation. This conversation is an offering for those committed to reimagining justice in ways that honor both our ancestors and our collective future. Listen now on all streaming platforms. Spirit & Liberation is a limited series podcast, brought to you by the Latinx Therapists Action Network, exploring the intersection of political struggle and sacred traditions. Each episode brings you into conversation with organizers, spiritual practitioners, and healers committed to weaving ancestral wisdom into the fight for our collective liberation. This series explores how spirit moves through our movements—offering tools, stories, and truths for these times. This episode was recorded in Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago in Songhai Studio operated and owned by songwriter/producer Konata Alleyne.