In this  episode, host Gordon welcomes an old friend, colleague, and former boss — Jo Royce, whose remarkable career spans Glue, Sapient, Google, Unilever, and Kimberly-Clark.

Together, they explore the evolution and implosion  of the creative and marketing industries in an era of AI disruption, automation, and shifting business models.

They dive deep into the changing landscape of advertising and marketing, why the industry struggles to attract diverse new talent, the impact of AI on creativity and employment, leadership, learning, and staying “connected to the do” and inding purpose and humanity in fast-changing systems

Along the way, Jo shares candid stories from her path — from building agencies to mentoring through WACL and Brixton Finishing School — and offers hope and honesty for anyone navigating change.

Tune in to get refreshing insights!