I have chosen to mark the anniversary of the murder of George Floyd by inviting back to the podcast four young women who helped me to find my bearings after he was killed on the 25th of May 2020. The emotional tone of our second meeting as a group is very different from last year. I find myself taken off guard by the emotions of my guests, muted, wary, and worn from the effort that has produced small the steps forward on the long the road that remains to make real progress in racial justice.