
*TW: Mention of suicidal ideation*
Black women are done working twice as hard for half as much.
In this hard-hitting episode of Space To Exhale: The Podcast, Lisa sits down with Janelle Benjamin, B.A., J.D.—Founder & CEO of All Things Equitable Inc., and host of the Twice As Hard Vodcast Series—to unpack the exhausting, systemic reality that Black women are expected to work “twice as hard to get half as far.”
The friends and activists also discuss the “last in/first out” treatment that many Black women are subjected to, a topic that is particularly poignant at this time in history when thousands of Black women have lost their jobs.
Together, they explore the toll these dynamics take on Black women’s lives, health, and careers—and why it’s time to rewrite the rules.
🎧 In this candid conversation, you will learn:
✅ The historical roots of the “twice as hard” narrative, and why it persists today
✅ The hidden costs of overwork on Black women’s mental, physical, and emotional well-being
✅ Strategies Black women can use to set boundaries, rest unapologetically, and reclaim ease
✅ Practical ways organizations can dismantle inequitable systems and create cultures of care
✅ Why centering equity isn’t charity—it’s essential for sustainable success in every workplace
✅ How workplaces can stop perpetuating grind culture and start centering equity
This is your invitation to be more, do less, and live abundantly.
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👸🏽Guest: Janelle Benjamin, Founder & CEO of All Things Equitable Inc., and host of the Twice As Hard vodcast series
👸🏽Host & Executive Producer: Lisa Hurley, Author, Space To Exhale and Founder, The Great Exhale
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It is time to exhale: to say no to hustle culture, and yes to a life of ease. In Space To Exhale, Lisa Hurley, Anthem Award-winning activist, founder of The Great Exhale, and leader in the rest movement for Black women, provides you with an uplifting and practical guide to help you beat burnout, embrace rest, and live a soft life.
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