
In this powerful episode of Sober Spill, Isabel sits down with Tommy Rosen, founder of Recovery 2.0 and host of In the Circle Podcast. Together, they dive into emotional sobriety, codependency, the “bottom of self-disgust,” and how recovery evolves over time. Tommy explains a new way to define recovery—not as limitation, but as a path of discovery and why healing must include mind, body, and spirit. Recovery is not just about fear of relapse but about love, discovery, and building a life worth living.
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Read more information about his upcoming trip to Costa Rica at https://r20.com/costarica2025