So What? Exploring Big Ideas and Why They Matter Welcome to Episode 8 of ‘So What’ as Tori Owens joins Michael and Trevor as they explore the big ideas of Julian Norwich an English anchoress of the Middle Ages who lived through the Black Death. Tori Owens is a full-time therapist and spiritual director, a part-time doctoral student in Open and Relational Theology, most definitely an everyday mystic, just trying to blend it all in such a way that it might be a little healing.  You can find her writing at Love, Tori (toriowens.substack.com). Tori co-hosts a series of conversations with public theologians, writers, and creatives with Jonathan Foster on Substack (https://fosterj.substack.com/). She is an ordained minister and serves on the board for the Open Table Network (opentable.network). She recently joined the advisory board for SPARKS, a creative initiative of the Center for Process Studies (ctr4process.org), launching this fall. If you enjoy this episode, please like it, subscribe, consider rating it, and sharing it with family and friends. This podcast can also be found on podbean, Spotify, Apple, and other platforms. Thanks to Jim for production and Rebekah for the voice behind the scenes. This podcast is produced by McKillop; Living Sacred Relationships.