In this episode, we talk with Matthew Johnson-Roberson, the CEO and co-founder of RefractionAI, a company that builds and deploys robotic platforms to provide safe and scalable last mile goods delivery in urban areas. We discuss Refraction’s current business model, providing delivery services to restaurants and grocery stores in Ann Arbor, Michigan, its custom delivery pod that drives autonomously in the bike lane with tele-operation back up, and its future plans for expanding into other sectors and geographies to become the Stripe/Square of last mile logistics and delivery.