In this special series of the Smarter Building podcast, hosts Nicole & Richard sat down with a few of the fantastic line up of guest speakers live from Symetri's Nordic BIM Summit in Stockholm, Sweden. Watch the fourth episode, where we chat with Jochen Teizer, a professor of Construction Technologies and Director of Construction Automation at the Technology University of Denmark. Hear how a life changing moment inspired his interest in advancing construction safety and how digital twins can contribute. They also discuss the benefits of using virtual reality and gamification in construction safety training, emphasising the need for organisations to start small and collaborate with academia to implement digital twin technology effectively.