In the first episode of Small World, broadcaster and designer Brendan Courtney chats to Kinda Nassli, a former Syrian TV presenter now living in Ireland. They explore their shared experiences in the world of broadcasting and navigate the complexities of the refugee system. Kinda shares her perspective on rewriting the refugee narrative. Through laughter and introspection, they discuss the challenges of leaving home and the joys of embracing a new life in Ireland. This open and honest dialogue captures the essence of human connection, resilience, and the power of redefining one's story.

The podcast is about sharing great conversations, but it’s also a chance to highlight the UNHCR’s global campaign – ‘Hope Away from Home’ as well as an important event, the  Global Refugee Forum which takes place in Geneva in December. We’re trying to rally as much Irish support for refugees in the lead-in to the Forum by getting as many people as possible to sign our petition  - https://unh.cr/654b65380 

This episode was recorded in September 2023.