This is part two of my conversation with Andrea Chiba, a behavioral neuroscientist and professor at the University of California San Diego. She co-founded the Global Science of Learning Education Network and was the founding Science Director for the NSF Temporal Dynamics of Learning Center, an NSF Science of Learning Center. We discuss the similarities between rats and people, the biological sense of empathy and fellow feeling, how touch and movement impact the brain and explore how modern day rituals can create connection and community and much, much more.