It is my pleasure to talk with Andrea Chiba, a behavioral neuroscientist and professor at the University of California San Diego. She co-founded the Global Science of Learning Education Network and was the founding Science Director for the NSF Temporal Dynamics of Learning Center, an NSF Science of Learning Center. She began her career as a high school mathematics teacher. We reflect on dynamic systems, amnesia, the extended mind, the importance of rhythm and music in the learning process and life, on new metaphors for thinking through science and much, much more.