Timothy and Lindsay are joined by Ben Joubert, a sales manager at Focal, to discuss the intricacies of sales in the photography industry. They explore common booking mistakes, the importance of effective communication, and how to handle objections without resorting to sleazy tactics. Ben shares his journey into sales, emphasizing the value of helping clients and understanding their needs. The conversation also delves into what couples look for in wedding photographers and how photographers can improve their sales strategies to connect better with clients. In this conversation, Ben Joubert and the hosts discuss the intricacies of customer profiling in sales, particularly in the context of wedding photography. They explore the importance of understanding intrinsic motivations behind purchases, the role of confidence in sales, and how to navigate common objections from clients. The discussion also highlights the significance of identifying customer types—budget-oriented versus value-oriented—and the impact of economic factors on sales strategies. Additionally, they emphasize the necessity of a well-structured website that communicates a photographer's story and builds trust with potential clients. In this segment, the conversation delves into the significance of transparency in pricing for photographers, emphasizing how it builds trust and attracts the right clients. The speakers discuss the importance of listening to clients during sales conversations and the effectiveness of follow-up strategies in securing bookings. They also explore flexible payment options that can enhance client satisfaction and increase conversion rates. In this conversation, Ben Joubert and the hosts discuss the intricacies of wedding photography sales, focusing on client financial concerns, effective follow-up strategies, and the Ignite program designed to help photographers improve their sales processes. They emphasize the importance of understanding client needs, setting expectations for follow-ups, and the value of asking questions to build rapport. The discussion also covers the Ignite program's structure and how it can benefit photographers looking to enhance their booking rates.   Want us to feature your question, photography story, or industry hot take on an episode? Send us a DM, voice note, or video on instagram @TheShootYourShotPodcast. Your privacy is important to us. If you want to remain anonymous just let us know :)   Sign up with Imagen AI to streamline your photo editing and get 1500 edits free! Sign up below for this rad AF offer: https://tinyurl.com/mt46dz6n   Become an IG reel-creating machine with Social Templates! with Promo code: LINDSAY. socialtemplates.co/lindsay   Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Sales and Photography02:59 Ben's Journey into Sales05:56 Understanding Sales Through Experience09:06 The Importance of Customer Interaction12:00 Focal's Role in Photography Sales14:51 Connecting Photographers with Clients17:59 What Couples Want from Photographers20:57 Overcoming Sales Resistance23:56 Real-Life Sales Experiences27:02 Conclusion and Key Takeaways27:59 Understanding Customer Profiling in Sales30:40 The Importance of Intrinsic Motivations33:50 Sales Confidence and Value Perception36:14 Navigating Common Sales Objections39:56 Identifying Customer Types: Budget vs. Value42:36 The Role of Website in Sales Strategy49:37 Adapting to Market Changes and Economic Factors53:42 The Importance of Transparency in Pricing59:10 Building Trust with Clients01:03:07 The Art of Listening in Sales01:07:09 Effective Follow-Up Strategies01:13:15 Flexible Payment Options for Clients01:18:44 Understanding Client Financial Concerns01:21:03 Effective Follow-Up Strategies01:24:58 The Ignite Program Overview01:32:00 Sales Strategies for Photographers01:37:58 Lightning Round Insights