Arguably one of the BEST Natural Bodybuilders in the world my good friend and fellow Coach IFBB Pro Matt Butale!

In this episode, we had the opportunity to catch up after almost 2 years without a getting on the phone (we're entrepreneurs ya know)

But we covered some really in depth concepts here like faith, sobriety, the reality of competing, and also navigating the tricks our minds can play on us and the effective it can have on us.

Matt really went into detail here about his story, some of the recent challenges he's faced, as well as how quickly he has climbed the ranks in the bodybuilding space.

This man is special and also unique, you guys can learn a good amount from him. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the episode :)