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Through engaging, one-on-one interviews, She Said/She Said is enriching (and challenging) the conversation about women’s leadership -- what it looks like and how we define it. We’re celebrating, supporting and showcasing a broader range of role models who are leading in inspiring ways -- large and small -- but always with insight and impact.
332. What we can learn from The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift with Kevin Evers
She Said / She Said with Laura Cox Kaplan
49 minutes 45 seconds
5 months ago
332. What we can learn from The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift with Kevin Evers
SHOW NOTES Episode 332: “The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift: Building Influence Through Storytelling, Reinvention, and Resilience” Guest: Kevin Evers, Senior Editor at Harvard Business Review, Author of “There’s Nothing Like This: The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift”THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: What does it take to go from a teenage singer in a Tennessee mall to building one of the most powerful empires in the music industry, and what can ambitious professionals in any field learn from that journey? This week’s conversation is a surprising and powerful masterclass in strategy, delivered through the lens of Taylor Swift’s career.Joining Laura is Kevin Evers, Senior Editor at Harvard Business Review and author of the new book that unpacks the business and strategic brilliance behind Taylor Swift’s rise. They break down the bold moves, storytelling strategies, and community-building tactics that turned setbacks into springboards, and created a playbook for influence, resilience, and staying power.This is not just an episode for Swifties and music fans. Whether you’re building a business, leading a team, or charting your next career move, Kevin and Laura tease out actionable lessons on storytelling, authenticity, adaptation, reinvention, handling criticism, and more. If you want clarity and confidence to pursue your biggest goals, you’ll find it here.ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: Kevin Evers (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-evers1) is a Senior Editor at Harvard Business Review, where he acquires and edits non-fiction books on a wide array of business topics. With more than a decade of experience shaping big-idea books, Kevin brings an expert’s eye to the intersection of business research and real-world application. In his new book, “There’s Nothing Like the Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift,” (https://www.amazon.com/Theres-Nothing-Like-This-Strategic/dp/B0DD2XL7C5) he analyzes how Swift’s mindset, risk-taking, and storytelling have redefined success and impact in the modern era. KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: – THE FOUNDER’S MENTALITY: How Taylor Swift approached her career with the clarity, persistence, and customer (fan) focus of a true entrepreneur—starting in her teens, breaking the “rules” of Nashville, and carving a space for young women in country music.– STRATEGIC STORYTELLING: Why world-building and narrative control set Taylor apart from her peers (and what artists and professionals alike can learn about actively shaping—not leaving—your own story to chance).– AUTHENTICITY (AND ITS LIMITS): Taylor’s model for being genuine while still adapting and growing. Kevin and Laura discuss how vulnerability and ambiguity in her lyrics build deep fan connection, but also how staying “too authentic” can become a “cage.”– THE ART OF THE SLOW PIVOT: What it means to “surprise but not shock” your audience. Hear how Taylor’s methodical reinvention (from country, to pop, to indie, and beyond) kept her evolving without alienating her core community.– RESILIENCE & REVERSE NARRATIVE: Taylor’s masterclass in handling criticism: from the infamous Kanye West interruption to public backlash and how she transformed negative moments and personal/professional loss into creative (and commercial) wins.– COMMUNITY, COLLABORATION, & TEAM LOYALTY: A look at how Taylor builds trust, loyalty, and longevity with close collaborators, team members, and fans—while still making tough pivots.– PRODUCTIVITY IN THE ATTENTION ECONOMY: How Taylor adapted her creative output for the streaming age—shifting from a “precious” approach to prolific production, and what that means for anyone looking to sustain growth after a career plateau.There’s so much to take away from this conversation, whether you want to own your narrative, build lasting influence, or flip setbacks into strategic advantages.
She Said / She Said with Laura Cox Kaplan
Through engaging, one-on-one interviews, She Said/She Said is enriching (and challenging) the conversation about women’s leadership -- what it looks like and how we define it. We’re celebrating, supporting and showcasing a broader range of role models who are leading in inspiring ways -- large and small -- but always with insight and impact.
