Can it be that tomorrow’s heavy industries will be located where the sun shines stronger and longer and the wind blows night and day? How will climate friendly policies change the international division of labor in energy intensive industries? This is what we want to discuss today in our sixth episode of shaping sustainable supply chains. Heavy industries such as iron and steel or chemicals are among the biggest energy consumers. According to the World Economic Forum, global heavy industry and transport account for almost one-third of global CO2 emissions. In Germany, the direct emissions of the chemical, steel and cement industries alone make up one eight of the total greenhouse gas emission. Politicians in Germany have decided that climate neutrality has to be reached until 2045. The heavy industry obviously has to contribute to reach this aim. But to get there a massive expansion of renewable energies is needed. In this episode we shed light on a topic that has received little public attention: The possible restructuring of global supply chains. We speak with two scientists who believe that the increasing focus on carbon-neutral energy production could change the division of labor. If green energy sources like wind or solar play an increasingly important role, then the heavy industries could go where wind and sun is available at low cost. This phenomena is known as the “Renewables Pull. And to dive into this topic moderator Nicolas Martin will discuss with his guest Sascha Samadi. He is an economist and senior researcher at the Wuppertal Institute for Climate, Environment and Energy, where he works in the Department for Energy and Industrial Systems of the Future. The second expert in the discussion is Clemens Schneider. He is working in the same department and focuses on industrial systems.