In this engaging conversation, Ashley Cobb and Lyvonne Briggs explore the profound connection between pleasure and liberation, particularly for Black women. They discuss the importance of reclaiming spirituality and sensuality, the need to decolonize Christianity, and the significance of healing bodily trauma. The dialogue also delves into the complexities of non-monogamy, jealousy, and the role of kink as a spiritual practice. Lyvonne shares insights from her book, 'Sensual Faith,' and emphasizes the importance of self-love and understanding one's own desires.