In this episode, Roane Hunter and Ben Derrick discuss Carl Lehenbauer's book "Fire and Song," which explores the Song of Solomon's deeper meanings and its relevance to modern marriages. Carl shares his journey of teaching the Song of Solomon, which led him to write a novel that integrates its themes into practical advice for marital intimacy. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the Hebrew poetry and the book's role in addressing societal issues around marriage and sexuality. The conversation highlights the need for grace, deep emotional connection, and physical intimacy in marriages, supported by a strong relationship with God.