In this episode, Ben, Roane, and Roe discuss the complexities of engaging in therapeutic work, particularly in the context of addiction and relationship issues. They highlight the challenges faced by individuals and couples seeking therapy, including unrealistic expectations and the misconception that therapy can quickly resolve deep-seated issues. They emphasize the importance of consistent effort, support groups, and attunement in the therapeutic process. The conversation also touches on the role of social media in shaping perceptions and the necessity of addressing underlying emotional and attachment issues rather than just surface problems.