Madison is joined by Natalie Lyla Ginsberg to discuss how spirituality can act as a container for psychedelic explorations.  Natalie Lyla Ginsberg co-founded the Jewish Psychedelic Summit with Madison Margolin this past spring. She is also the Director of Policy & Advocacy at the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). Here, she works to disentangle science from political partisanship, and to create safe, equitable and regulated access to psychedelics, and all criminalized substances. Natalie is particularly inspired by psychedelics’ potential to assist in healing intergenerational trauma, for building empathy and community, and for inspiring creative and innovative solutions. She is also partnering with Israeli and Palestinian colleagues to develop a psychedelic peace-building study. Natalie received her B.A. in history from Yale, and her master’s of social work (M.S.W.) from Columbia. Keep up with Natalie on Instagram! "Even when people don't have particularly mystical experiences in therapy, even just the framework of listening to your inner intelligence and trusting the magic of your subconscious, understanding your body, that is deeply spiritual.” – Natalie Lyla Ginsberg  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.