
About the episode:
In this episode, Michael and Matt dive into navigating AI transformation as a sales leader and why authentic human connections still matter most. They discuss how to stay relevant in a rapidly changing landscape, the importance of face-to-face meetings over endless AI tools, and why being genuinely curious and real with customers beats any sales trick in the book.
About the guest:
Matt Marshall is a startup sales veteran with over 20 years of experience scaling teams at companies like Embarcadero, Successfactors, Citrix, and Iterable, where he helped grow revenue from $1.5M to $75M. He's passionate about building authentic sales cultures and currently works in executive search and coaching, helping sales leaders navigate the rapidly evolving AI landscape while staying focused on human connections.
Where to find Matt Marshall:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattlmarshall/
Where to find Michael (Founder & CEO @ SellMeThisPen AI):
Email: michael@sellmethispen.ai
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelocean/
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