This week, I’m joined by my longtime friend and former seminary professor, Dr. Kutter Callaway, to explore the fascinating intersections of art, theology, and psychology. Kutter, a double PhD holder in theology and experimental psychology, shares his insights into the ways art influences human cognition, fosters awe, and shapes our understanding of the world. We dive into topics like: The measurable effects of art on awe, gratitude, and transcendence—and what happens when those effects vary across different groups of people. Why the arts and religion have co-evolved in human history and the shared psychological roots that make them essential to our humanity. How art can both unite and divide, depending on the context and audience. Kutter’s research on how digital and physical art experiences differ in their impact on spirituality and connection. We also swap stories about Sundance Film Festival, the dynamics of personal branding, and why we feel restless when we can’t fit all our interests into one neat package. Highlights: [00:04:00] How journaling can reveal life’s patterns and why it’s worth revisiting your old entries. [00:07:00] Kutter’s unique perspective on combining creativity, theology, and psychology—and the throughline in his work. [00:29:00] What is aesthetic cognitivism, and how does it help us understand the spiritual power of art? [00:44:00] Surprising research findings: How awe can amplify prejudice in certain people. [00:55:00] Why early cave art might reveal the psychological roots of art and religion. [01:00:00] The allure of stand-up comedy as a real-time experiment in human behavior. [01:03:00] Lessons from a clown workshop: Loosening your jaw and acknowledging the audience. Connect with Kutter Callaway: Website: www.kuttercallaway.com Kutter's HORROR podcast Mentioned in the Episode: Books: My Name is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok, Awe by Dacher Keltner, After Method Films: Sing Sing Join the Conversation: What’s your secret art project this week? Why are you making it? Share your thoughts with me on social media or via email—I’d love to hear about your creative journeys. Follow Me: Instagram: @secretartprojects BlueSky: @secretartproject Letterboxd: @sheologian Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review the show. Thanks for listening! (I use AI to help write show notes.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices