In this episode of Scaling Up, Not Giving Up, Richard Lee sits down with seasoned entrepreneur and business coach Pete Mohr to talk about the real journey from being stuck in the day-to-day to building a business that works for you — not the other way around.

Pete shares 30+ years of lessons scaling businesses, including:

• Bootstrapping his first franchise from $20k in savings to successful exit

• How he moved from working in the business to working on the business

• Why building systems and processes is the real key to scaling

• How to avoid burnout by letting go of tasks you don’t love

• Why you need an exit plan — even if you never plan to sell

Whether you're just starting out or thinking about life after business ownership, this episode will challenge your mindset and show you what’s possible when you shift from operator to owner.

Mentioned in this episode:

• Pete’s coaching and resources: pete-mohr.com