In this new installment of the Say What Again Billy? podcast mini-series Side Talk, Billy dives headfirst into a conspiracy theory bombshell shaking the political world.

Donald Trump and several of his staff members are now saying there is no Epstein client list — a complete reversal from what was once publicly promised. Even Pam Bondi, who previously claimed she had the list on her desk, is now deflecting, telling people to refer to other members of the current Trump administration.

So why the sudden change of pace? Why are figures like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino — both of whom once spoke boldly about the Epstein case on video — now changing their tune?

Is there really a deep state influencing or even controlling whoever steps foot in the White House?

If this intrigues you like it has so many others, tune in to this explosive episode of the Say What Again Billy? podcast Side Talk