In this thought-provoking episode, our team sits down for a wide-ranging conversation that dives into some of the most polarizing issues of the moment. They unpack Trump’s battle with Harvard — is it fair and just? The discussion then pivots to the state of education: are teachers paid what they deserve, and are universities really preparing the next generation?

As the conversation deepens, the group debates the appropriateness of Trump’s latest pardon. Christopher raises a compelling question: why do the more educated and financially comfortable tend to be more disillusioned with Trump, while many working-class and less formally educated Americans remain fiercely loyal, even when Trump’s policies may ultimately harm them and their loved ones?

This episode explores the intersections of politics, education, class, and identity, and why belief in a leader can sometimes defy logic and personal interest.